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Ageel, no offense, but I think to "make it" in Canada it is necessary to be proficient in at least one of the official languages. Ideally both English and French. No offence, but from reading your initial posting, I dont think anyone would be left feeling that you are proficient enough in English to warrant getting a job with a Canadian company in a high position. Mind you, there are many people in high positions who cannot write or speak very well. (its a tough situation) You might be able to get by in a company whose customer base speaks in your mother tongue. I really dont mean this to sound offensive, but I´m trying to be honest. I hope this helps.
[26-08-2005,16:35]
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Adrian |
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(in reply to: Canadian Immigration means deceiving themselves 2)
For me for example it would be more interesting to hear some success stories like ?Came to Canada as a SW 6 months ago, still looking for a (%^#´ing job" - that kind of posts would be more informative.
[26-08-2005,17:46]
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Olek |
(in reply to: Canadian Immigration means deceiving themselves 2)
Why the Canadian government don´t care about what you (immigrants) think:
Immigration quota: (approx. 250,000/annum)
Assume:
75% are independent applicants
Each applicant pays C$1,500 for application and processing
Each applicant is required to bring C$ 10,000 into Canada to prove that they can live in Canada without relying on government support.
Each applicant do not have a job for the first three months.
So:
250,000 X 0.75 X 1,500 = C$ 281,250,000 a year just from immigration fees alone. Even if half of that money is used for processing cost and labour, it is a good chunk of money. But wait, there´s more to come: 10,000 X 250,000 = C$ 2,500,000,000
Free/Gratis to the economy of Canada that you don´t get back since everything else FOR you have to be paid by you. While it is still your money, you keep it in the bank and thus it is approximately like lending money to the government without any interest.
Now, if the government does not attract people like you to come, they WOULD lose this kind of free income/investment in Canada! And you are wondering why they don´t want to do anything about it, why should they?
The ideal situation is that you leave Canada after five years in Canada so they don´t have to worry about your CPP or health care support while the money you bring is already in the economy.
[26-08-2005,17:46]
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AA |
(in reply to: Canadian Immigration means deceiving themselves 2)
AA-
Alternatively, one could enter Canada and acquire a good job relatively fast; hence, the "funds" brought into the country do not need to be accessed. Now, you are employed in Canada, receiving a regular income, nationalised and possibly extra healthcare from your employer, and have succeeded.
You wrote that everything you get is for you and by you, which is a rather bizarre statement since all PRs have access to Canadian healthcare after three months of landing. So, if I get in a car wreck, or if my wife needs an new heart valve, then that is provided to us through PR status.
Furthermore, most of us are smart enough to closely pay attention to the labor market in our particular fields. I am confident that my wife and I can acquire jobs relatively quickly because of my regular inquiries to job opennings.
And finally, if after five years a PR is still in Canada, happily employed, etc, then why should they leave?
Sorry AA, but I disagree with you. I feel many in this forum would support what I wrote.
I could be wrong though.
[26-08-2005,18:25]
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Greg |
(in reply to: Canadian Immigration means deceiving themselves 2)
well, I´m just a canadian citizen who is being crtitical of government´s immigration policy. Most candaians I´ve talked to agree that canada has been wasting too many talents and goodwills of immigrants because of the mismatch of labor supply and demand. It´s just sad. that´s all.
[26-08-2005,19:05]
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AA |
(in reply to: Canadian Immigration means deceiving themselves 2)
The write up is not a true reflection of the country Canada as I know it. It is also not a true reflect of how others sees it, except they are being deceptive.
The grass is always greener on the other side until you get there. With a foreign degree it is close to impossible to getting a job. Let no one deceive you.
If you want a forum that would educate you, and make your mind for yourself. They are only interested in your money period.
[26-08-2005,19:09]
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Philip Cole |
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AA and Philip Cole, when you write about foreign degrees not be recognized, do you include American degrees? Furtheremore, what about regulated professions, such as in mental health or physical health, which have detailed explanations from appropriate colleges (organizations) as to how to convert to their lisence? If one goes through the process to convert such certificates, I don´t see how employment would still be a complication.
Please enlighten me.
[26-08-2005,20:01]
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Greg |
(in reply to: Canadian Immigration means deceiving themselves 2)
American degrees are not as good as canadian ones. Actually canadian experience is what matters. Foreign MDs would have to go back to med school and to complete residency at hospital here in canada in order to get their license. Barriers to entry for regulated professions are relatively high. That´s why there´s a shortage of doctors in canada and a long waiting list to get operations done. As a founder and CEO of a marketing and international trade consultancy, I know first hand how difficult at times to get a decent job here. We recently had a job opening. Guess how many resumes that we received? almost 200. Every potential candidate has a master degree. It´s just a junior position.
[26-08-2005,21:46]
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AA |
(in reply to: Canadian Immigration means deceiving themselves 2)
AA... out of those 200 resumes, how many of them were obviously recent immigrants with poor language skills? I put out a job posting last year for a communications assistant. Got 300 applications from accounting students, foreign trained chemists that could not spell, no idea of how to compose a letter, and yet they still felt qualified for the job. Out of 300 applications there were about 25-30 that had adequate english skills to do the job.
What sort of resume did you hire for your junior position? did you hire Canadian experience or did you accept the guy with a masters degree from another country in an unrelated field?
[26-08-2005,22:12]
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sharon |
(in reply to: Canadian Immigration means deceiving themselves 2)
AA..."Apple Pie" please hire me because i have 2 master degrees.......Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[26-08-2005,23:08]
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Steve |
(in reply to: Canadian Immigration means deceiving themselves 2)
Which does not make you clever, Steve. Sorry, buddy, could not resist on this:-)
[26-08-2005,23:51]
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Olek |
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