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Subject: INFERIORITY COMPLEX (continued...)
Subject: INFERIORITY COMPLEX
You know it?s funny when these UofT fanboys say that York students have an inferiority complex. Yet, whenever someone suggests that their school is better than UofT in any given field, they get defensive and write disparaging remarks about the other schools in a fit of rage. Makes you wonder who really has the inferiority complex.

On another note, you?d think the ten or so rankings that were posted previously which showed various schools in a superior position than UofT?s would put them down to earth. The complex lingers.
[14-05-2006,20:35]
Anonymous
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Another example of an inferiority complex is the guy who claims UofT accepts >90% of applicants. If that?s true, then I feel sorry for that poster.... obviously he was rejected by such an easy school to feel so bitter about it.

PS - York is good at history but ain?t the best!
[14-05-2006,21:50]
Anonymous
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I disagree, the 90% rate was a just a huge joke, it?s so ridiculous that it was obvious. The one with the inferiority complex is the one who took it seriously, wonder who that was...
[14-05-2006,21:53]
Anonymous
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PPS - an inferiority complex is when you actually think you?re not as good as another and talk loud to cover it up. A superiority complex is when you truly believe you are the best and feel obligated to make sure everyone knows it.

UofT fanboys = superiority complex
UofT haterz = inferiority complex
[14-05-2006,21:56]
Anonymous
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Yeah, obviously the 90% thing was first posted as a joke but reposting it several times a day makes it pathological.
[14-05-2006,21:59]
Anonymous
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I don?t believe in superiority complexes. those who know they are superior don?t need to thump their chest in front of everyone. Those who do have serious confidence issues and hence the inferiority complex.
[14-05-2006,21:59]
Anonymous
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trolls feed off those who take things seriously
[14-05-2006,22:00]
Anonymous
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Don?t believe in superiority complexes? The APA might take issue with you picking and choosing which of their psychological disorders to recognize.
[14-05-2006,22:02]
Anonymous
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That is my opinion and I was talking more within the context of this board. I?m more inclined to believe that the UofT fanboys have an inferiority, not superiority, complex. I can just feel it anytime someone mentions Schulich or McGill or Queen?s being better.
[14-05-2006,22:06]
Anonymous
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Based on the posts in this forum, I can conclude that the Yorker who keeps posting about UofT having a 90% acceptance rate is the one with the inferiority complex.
[14-05-2006,22:28]
Anonymous
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"I can just feel it anytime someone mentions Schulich or McGill or Queen?s being better."

Then that means Schulich, McGill, and Queens students have inferiority complexes, since they were the ones who mentioned their school being better first.
[14-05-2006,22:29]
Anonymous
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But that is because you are focusing on UofT students. Each one of those exchanges requires more than one participant to have self esteem issues or nobody would be arguing. The exchanges tend to be between the same schools and tend to be started by a troll who probably doesn?t attend either of them. If you can?t recognize the baiting then you reveal your own biases against UofT students. And if you generalize about the students of Canada?s largest and most diverse school, your opinions are more likely rooted in emotion than logic (assuming of course a gang of UofTers didn?t pull a number on you or your family). From those emotions can come complexes. Maybe not inferiority or superiority, but complexes nonetheless.

Actually, I don?t really disagree with you but I like to argue. I?d guess most of the real UofT responses come from 1st year students in danger of flunking out. Grow up in Toronto and you?ll constantly hear talk about UofT being the best. Sometimes students aren?t prepared to have that idea challenged because they don?t know much about other universities.
[14-05-2006,22:33]
Anonymous
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maybe they replied to a uoft fanboy, so that that means the uoft fanboy has the complex
stop reaching
[14-05-2006,22:34]
Anonymous
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You know what, I completely agree with you (referring to the 11th post)
[14-05-2006,22:40]
Anonymous
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The thing is, some people who are not familiar with Canadian Universities might come here, read some of the posts, and take them to be the truth. There is a difference between having a healthy debate about which school is better by providing facts along with sources, and posting lies (e.g., 90% acceptance rate).

By the way, I will never bash McGill, UBC, Queens, etc. because I think they?re great schools. But I will defend UofT if I see something posted that is debatable.
[14-05-2006,22:41]
Anonymous
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But you see I also have issues with these debates. Most of the time nobody ever provides sources, for example the Top Schools/Top Programs threads is another one of those threads where people just dish out their opinion based on what? Heresay? Has anyone really studied in all universities and in all subjects at the same time to compare and suggest that for example, UBC is the best in Life Sciences? And even when sources are provided, some readers don?t understand the subjectiveness of the source or rankings. I guess what I?m trying to say is that debating about universities (especially the ones we don?t even attend) is always problematic. I don?t think any of us here really knows who is better at what. We just regurgitate what is written in whatever ranking or whatever your next door neighbor told you.

[14-05-2006,23:05]
Anonymous
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^ Our little ranking of the best schools/programs would be based primarily on reputation.

The thing that is annoying is when people don´t give respect to Universities that are leaders in a particular program.

[14-05-2006,23:08]
Anonymous
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basing it on reputation is even more subjective and problematic. Do you think anyone in BC has ever heard of Schulich? I´m willing to bet that the average Montrealer thinks John Molson or HEC are the best business schools in Canada. How do we assess which universities are leaders, again we regurgitate the rankings and whatever our neighbors tell us.
[14-05-2006,23:15]
Anonymous
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and another point, how would you know whatever universities are deserving of such respect. It´s all regurgitation or hearsay again.
[14-05-2006,23:19]
Anonymous
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I agree with what you are saying. It is a very subjective ranking. To label one school as "the best" is deeply problematic. However, we can still come up with a list which is both informative and fair.

The problem is when people purposely leave out a school that is clearly great in a particular area. Such as exluding UofT from law, engineering, psych, comp. sci. etc. or Ryerson from Journalism.

[14-05-2006,23:50]
Anonymous
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Proof of inferiority complex from a York student
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I have a dream that I can one day proclaim that I?m a York student ... without embarrassment.

When I went home for Christmas break after first-year, I was quite jealous when my friends from McGill, UBC, Queen?s, even UofT, could find a no-brainer Christmas gift for their parents which resembled an item of clothing with "insert the name of a university better than York" Dad/Mom embroidered on the front. However, I wouldn?t in my right mind try to hand over a "York Dad" or "York Mom" shirt to my folks, at the risk of having it thrown back at my face. Then again, I wouldn?t want my folks to be ridiculed in their circle of friends, as I am in mine. Typical responses would be, "You go to York? Wow, you must have really flunked high school!", "York? Isn?t that the school plagued with scandals and protests?", "York? Isn?t that the school that plastered St. George Station with the interdisciplinary ads (if FACS 1900 wasn?t enough) last year?" and don?t forget the mythical shirts from UofT that read "Friends don?t let friends go to York."

Additionally making York very unattractive is its location beside the Jane and Finch corridor, an area notorious for its gun violence and high crime rate. People often advise me to hold my purse tight, don?t wander out at night and generally live in fear. Well, I do admit that I am afraid, but not in fear of getting shot, mugged or raped.
I?m afraid for the safety of my idealistic activist classmates and of the scams that rape my tuition money. Last year alone, York administration was under attack for a plethora of issues, including land scandals, questionable pay raises and abusing protesters, not to mention the sham that is York Parking. In my opinion, I?d rather be mugged by a petty thief than scammed by York Admin. At least a petty thief is in need of the money. I highly doubt that the York Administration needs another raise.

On the bright side, the sleazy guys in the downtown clubbing district inform me that the female student body here at York have an impeccable fashion sense. Stilettos, two pounds of makeup, Gucci, bling and Louis Vuitton purses are just some of the requirements of the York runway. Who needs trashy tabloids when living replicas of Paris Hilton are regularly strolling around our campus? Nevertheless, I can always be reminded nostalgically of my OSAP loan by the "Tiara Girl" (a term coined by a frustrated student, Jaspreet Sandhu), who complains in my tutorial about how her binder doesn?t match her $2,000 Louis Vuitton purse.

As a Torontonian, the general perception of York is that it?s the commuter school with little sense of community and a low cut off average, accepting all the leftovers who have been rejected from the more reputable universities. As the saying goes, "If you can hold a fork, you can go to York." Even though residence life is virtually non-existent, the perception of York as a school full of D-class students isn?t entirely true.
There are a couple of programs here that actually need more than a passing average and a cheque for tuition to gain admittance. Examples would be the highly competitive Schulich School of Business (notice how they have conveniently left York out of their name) and most of the by-audition-only programs in the Faculty of Fine Arts.

So when I graduate next year, what will I bring away from York along with my diploma? Parking ticket stubs, an empty wallet, maybe a couple of gunshot wounds and a renewed sense of pessimism.

Source: Excalibur, York University?s Newspaper

http://www.excal.on.ca/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=896&Itemid=50

[15-05-2006,01:48]
Anonymous
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If you have to "tell" people it´s the best school, then it probably isn´t.
[16-05-2006,14:59]
Anonymous
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^ some people are not as informed as others. ergo, they need to be told.
[16-05-2006,19:40]
Anonymous



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