Smart people can succeed from any university

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Subject: Smart people can succeed from any university
James Gosling the creator of the "Java Programming Language" is a computer science graduate form the University of Calgary. If you guys think that employers will look at your degree and automatically give you a job you are mistake. Employers don´t give a shit if your from UofT, Waterloo, McGill etc. Wait till you go for your first interview and you will realize how futile it is to argue about which university is better.
[29-06-2006,17:12]
Anonymous
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this person is right your egos will be deflated in the real world!
[29-06-2006,17:16]
Anonymous
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This guy is pretty funny. He may have started the Java programming language, but sun microsystems created the blueprints. This language is useless without the design pattern and blue prints. You might have create the blueprints from C++. By-the-way, how may York students were hired by Microsoft or Sun ????? Why don´t you pose this question to Mr. Bill Gates, on his Annual trip to Waterloo???
[29-06-2006,18:24]
Anonymous
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University of Calgary happens to have one of the best esoteric compsci departments in Canada. A lot of weird and cool stuff comes out of there and the school has a good reputation. You can´t hold it as an example of "any" university.
[29-06-2006,19:03]
Anonymous
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blue prints what the fuck are you talking about?

Education and career

In 1977, James Gosling received a B.Sc in Computer Science from the University of Calgary. In 1983, he earned a Ph.D in Computer Science from Carnegie Mellon University. While working towards his doctorate, Gosling created the original version of the Emacs text editor for UNIX (gosmacs), and before joining Sun Microsystems he built a multi-processor version of UNIX, as well as several compilers and mail systems.

Since 1984, Gosling has been with Sun Microsystems, and is generally known best as the father of the Java programming language. Gosling is currently (as of 2006) Sun´s CTO of the developer product group.
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Contributions

He is generally credited as the inventor of the Java programming language in 1994. He did the original design of Java and implemented its original compiler and virtual machine. For this achievement he was elected to the United States National Academy of Engineering. He has also made major contributions to several other software systems, such as NeWS and Gosling Emacs.

[29-06-2006,20:17]
Anonymous
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You don´t have to go to UofT or Waterloo to learn how to friggin program. Geez. I could care less about Bill Gates, most of his "useful" programmers are currently writing code for him in India anyway.

I have learned and excelled in C, C++, Java, SQL, all from going to York. I have seen the assignments and workload at UofT (friend goes there) its pretty much the same crap!

Lose the Ego.

[29-06-2006,20:42]
Anonymous
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If you knew anything about application development, you would know about java blueprints and how they develop the technology. Thats exactly why you go to York, to learn to program. As a Comp. sci or engineering grad you do not code. You do application development, which includes project management, brd´s hld, dld ... then you pass it on to the developer to write code. Before you begin showing exactly why people don´t hire york grads, understand the SDLC. You have just demonstrated why U of T, Waterloo, Ryerson, McMaster CS students will take you to school, because all these programs implement SDLC in their assignments. By-the-way, Sun/Microsoft, etc do not write rinky dink applications like a calculator ... since you are good C C++ Java and SQL, they write huge systems, which have a life cycle
[29-06-2006,23:38]
Anonymous
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The richest man in the world do not hire programmers, he hires visionaries, leaders of tomorrow, hard workers, strategic thinkers, realistic thinkers, creative thinkers which comes from programs at U of T, Waterloo, Ryerson, Western, Mcmaster, Queens ... It may also come from York, but they have not proved it yet (Since Microsoft/Sun/Cisco/RIM recruit from the above schools every year).
[29-06-2006,23:52]
Anonymous
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for those who don´t think that employers look at which university you attended, you´re being a bit bias. think about it, would you hire a graduate from the university of toronto or nipissing university if those were your two candidates both with equal skills. you would most definately go with the guy from uoft anyday. those who make the statement that employers don´t care with uni you attended are probably those that go to a shitty school
[30-06-2006,00:15]
Anonymous
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"...two candidates both with equal skills..."

If their skills are equal, then the candidate who is most likely to get along with the others in the department would be hired. Interviewers look for people who can do the job AND get along with other co-workers.

In a technical workplace, there are technicians, technologists, programmers, engineers, scientists from all different educational backgrounds. Employees with the "I´m better cuz of my special XYZ degree" are usually the first to get canned because they often have other attitude problems.

Wake up!! This is the real world.

[30-06-2006,00:42]
Anonymous
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^ I agree, wtv uni you came from has minimal importance.
[30-06-2006,01:59]
Anonymous
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oh really? well can one of you UofT, Waterloo, Ryerson "geniuses" please explain to me as to how my friend who is an BA ITEC grad from York just got a job with Microsoft in Missississauga?

take of your "i hate york" t-shirts they are dirty and in need of a wash!

[30-06-2006,04:14]
Anonymous
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My tee is " friends don´t let friends go to york".
[30-06-2006,05:48]
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