Lakehead University Is Not A Good University

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Subject: Lakehead University Is Not A Good University
Lakehead University consistently compares itself with the nation´s leading universities; the University of Toronto and McGill University, and at times, Waterloo University; Perhaps, Mr. Bill Gates´ Favorite Univerisity worldwide. This university is frequently ranked very low by practically every source one can think of, such as Maclean´s, Globe & Mail, and the minds of every student in their right mind, to name a few. Lakehead University is a Canadian university, therefore it is decent, because all Canadian universities are good. But, to say you are on par with the two universities mentioned, you must be trying to convince someone, perhaps you? Because you know that in order to conquer this insecurity that you may have, on how Lakehead is inferior to many other universities, you have to constantly remind yourself that Lakehead is a "great" university. Honestly now, this is most definately the case with you Lakehead students. I won´t stop you, keep telling yourself that, if it will help you get sleep at night.

-UT 2010-

[06-07-2006,12:36]
Anonymous
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First, learn to spell Torontian: It is not "definately" as you always use, it is "definitely."

Lakehead ´09

[06-07-2006,13:12]
Anonymous
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usually when you say first there is a second. you just stopped after first. what a lakeheader

i can´t believe you are proud of your school. if i were you i would be so ashamed of attendin lakehead. haah what a joke..nipissing is the more respected school anyways..it´s ranked higher than lakehead all the time.

Nipissing 08´

[06-07-2006,13:17]
Anonymous
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Lakehead, stop saying you are on par with UT/McGill, because you know you are not. Well, it is always good to keep dreaming right, good for you Lakehead, keeping your dreams alive and well. You may be on par with universities such as the University of Windsor as well as Laurentian University, but never will you be on par with UT/McGill. Get real Lakehead.

-UT 2010-

[06-07-2006,16:58]
Anonymous
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Lakehead is a good Canadian university and getting better.

Why do you feel the need to continue with your constant stream of put-downs on Lakehead? Do you honestly believe that if you come here and mock Lakehead, that will somehow maintain your own sense of superiority?

I can see that Lakehead has been recently scoring some big upsets in engineering competitions and their success in business competitions like ICBC can only help their business school. Their students are rejoicing, if not gloating a bit. But why should that bother a proud UofT student like youself?

You believe UofT has good reputation according to Maclean´s. But you also learn that rep survey has extremely low response rate so it may not even be accurate. Even your own university is pulling out of the graduate survey becasue of concerns about *low response rate* and methodology. Furthermore, the Globe ad Mail Report Card on Universites rates the UofT undergrad experience as mediocre. UofT students give it a crappy C-grade.

Don´t get me wrong, UofT has a great graduate school and is a research giant. Hopefully, that will reflect in the undergraduate experience??? But then again, you look around. Undergraduate students from Lakehead and other schools manage to outscore big-name schools in various academic competitions. Mmm, maybe Lakehead is not that bad afterall? And worse for you, they´re coming to this forum to gloat about it! But, really they shouldn´t. Hey, maybe some of them are just tired of all the put-downs. Did you ever think about that?

Crappy universities just aren´t suppose to consistently place in the top-5 in U.S. national engineering competitions. Bad performers receiving a poor education don´t win prestigious IEEE awards when matched against a giant like UofT.

I think you are the one that is insecure. Well, maybe if you and others in your positions continue bashing Lakehead and mock their students, that would make you feel better about yourself and UofT or whichever university and boost your self-esteem?

Face it, Lakehead is a decent university and getting better. You can´t talk them down, but that doesn´t seem to stop you and others from trying. Now if you find that frustrating, then get used to it.





[06-07-2006,18:40]
Anonymous
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nicely said
[06-07-2006,18:45]
Anonymous
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go home lakehead. nipissing rocks your fishermen town
[06-07-2006,20:06]
Anonymous
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"First, learn to spell Torontian"

I´m not the OP, but what exactly is a "Torontian"??? It sounds like some sort of alien race. Do you guys get many visitors out in the boonies?

[07-07-2006,01:14]
Anonymous
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"Lakehead is a good Canadian university and getting better."

no, actually it is one of the worst canadian universities.

"You believe UofT has good reputation according to Maclean?s."

lol. according to macleans? it´s according to society. everyone knows how great uoft is. it´s common knowledge, just like everyone knows lakehead is a shitty.

"But you also learn that rep survey has extremely low response rate so it may not even be accurate."

actually, the response rate wasn´t low for a survey. 16% is not a small pecentage of respondents, and a sample size of ~16,000 is definitely not a small sample to get a good idea of the general opinion.

"Even your own university is pulling out of the graduate survey becasue of concerns about *low response rate* and methodology."

uoft is pulling out and almost all universities followed suit. dude, uoft has been ranked number one 14 years in a row, why the heck would they be worried about their ranking. uoft probably pulled out because they win every year, so they don´t bother competing anymore. its like oprah who kept winning emmys and then told the academy to stop nominating her because she´d always win.

"Furthermore, the Globe ad Mail Report Card on Universites rates the UofT undergrad experience as mediocre. UofT students give it a crappy C-grade."

there is not undergrad experience measure. there is only undergrad reputation of your university and those uoft students gave it an A-. man, i can´t believe you´d think that the globe and mail is a better system than macleans. the globe and mail is a student survey where they don´t even publish how many students were polled and the process in which they did it. it´s hardly scientific, and obviously inaccurate if you look at most of the results.

for example, this is just quickly going through:


(nippising) reputation of university among employers: A-
(uoft) " : A-

(nippising) labs, research equipment: A-
(university of lethbridge) " : B+
(trent) " : B+
(uoft) " : B

(nippising) library: A-
(university of lethbridge) " : A
(uoft) " : A-

(nippising) attractiveness of campus: A
(trent) " : A
(uoft) " : B

(nippising) overall on campus buildings and facilities: A-
(trent) " : A-
(uoft) " : B

(nippising) overall educational experience: A-
(university of lethbridge) " : A
(trent) " : A
(uoft) " : B+

(nippising) degree to which your undergrad experience will prepare you for employment: A-
(university of lethbridge) " : B+
(uoft) " : B-

(nippising) number of courses to choose from: B+
(trent) " : B
(uoft) " : B

now do you see how inaccurate this is?

"Don?t get me wrong, UofT has a great graduate school and is a research giant. Hopefully, that will reflect in the undergraduate experience??? But then again, you look around. Undergraduate students from Lakehead and other schools manage to outscore big-name schools in various academic competitions. Mmm, maybe Lakehead is not that bad afterall? And worse for you, they?re coming to this forum to gloat about it! But, really they shouldn?t. Hey, maybe some of them are just tired of all the put-downs. Did you ever think about that?"

dude, you won a few competitions, relax. how many lakeheaders do you see running big companies, teaching at harvard and the ivy´s, going to the best grad schools, in politics, doing cutting-edge research, etc. etc.??

"Crappy universities just aren?t suppose to consistently place in the top-5 in U.S. national engineering competitions. Bad performers receiving a poor education don?t win prestigious IEEE awards when matched against a giant like UofT."

i´ll admit it´s impressive lakehead did well, but you can´t deduce that lakehead is great now that it won a few competitions. keep doing it year after year and then we´ll talk.

"Face it, Lakehead is a decent university and getting better. You can?t talk them down, but that doesn?t seem to stop you and others from trying. Now if you find that frustrating, then get used to it."

you are the arrogant one who started the threads saying lakehead is better than waterloo, uoft, etc. you are just asking to be embarassed by making such stupid remarks, and you haven´t stopped since.

[07-07-2006,02:08]
Anonymous
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Actually, when I said undergrad experience (C-grade), I was referring to class size. The education experience was rated B+ which was consistent with other large schools.

Other than that, I stand by my post.


[07-07-2006,03:01]
Anonymous
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I´m in grade twelve at the moment, and I recently just went to a Lakehead AND UofT recruitment meeting to see which one I enjoyed more.

To be honest, I was extremely disappointed by the UofT presentation. I´m not here to say which university is better because I haven´t GONE to any of them, which is the point. How can people point fingers and form opinions to schools they haven´t a) been to, and b) educated themselves on. You haven´t been to both schools...

Also I just want to say that the rankings of Universities don´t necessarily have anything to do with how good the school is. A lot of it is judged on the faculty.

Profs main job is to research, and publish, so profs who have published a lot and have recieved many grants are the ones that are being judged upon, therefore whatever school they are at gets a higher ranking. Thats just the way it is.

Also consider the population difference of the schools, how can you compare number of awards and such when Lakehead hads 7,000 kids and UofT has well OVER 30,000.

It´s like comparing apples and oranges. The fact of the matter is, BOTH schools are good schools, who you are as an individual, and what you take from the experience should be enough.


[23-09-2010,21:19]
Anonymous
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Lakehead University is a great university. All you people in your big shot universities are so high up on your horses it is unbelievable.

Fact: entrance averages are based on the amount of people applying to that university, it has nothing to do with the quality. If 100 people apply to a university that accepts 150 people, the entrance level for that university goes down, way down. If there is 600 people applying for 150 positions at a university like you stuck up UofT students, than the entrance average sky rockets.

Yes your school has a better reputation but that is only because your entrance average is so high and you accept better students. And the only reason you accept better students because more people apply.

As a result of your universities high credibility based on student population and misleading entrance average, your school gets better funding and awards which only improve credibility and research dollars.

Lakehead University receives minimal applicants because they think the weather is harsh here, were far from anywhere known to average population, and we are only an emerging university that was established only 50 years ago. Not many people know it, and those people that do are under the same assumption that there are better universities.

Our faculty is substantial and the learning experience is one of the best and i actually know all my proffessors by first name and they know me by first name allowing me to excell in my classes and get help when ever i need.

Entrance average says nothing about the universities performance. all it says is that alot of people apply to the university so they are able to accept more people and more talent which leads to more credibility and more students.

If lakehead university had 50,000 applicantd next year for our 8,000 full capacity school, the entrance level would be above 85% as well, just like any other stuck up university.

Dont act like you guys know anything and bring up articles like mecleaans (media articles) before posting, read some actual journal articles and peer reviewed articles, do some research, havent they taught you to research before discussing something you know nothing about. They taught that to us at Lakehead... we all thought it was fundamental but you don´t...

[23-03-2011,00:01]
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