UofT easy engineering school?

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Subject: UofT easy engineering school?
http://www.edu.gov.on.ca/eng/general/postsec/kpi/pdfs/engrgrad.pdf


it says it all here

[22-07-2006,21:18]
Anonymous
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"those who recieved a degree by starting program of study" :

is a generic label used in the chart to make the chart usable for other subjects. The starting program of study is then listed at the top of the page, in the case of this chart it is engineering.

The engineering faculty knows who is registered in eng, and they know who gets a degree in eng. The chart is very very simple. Whats that? you still dont understand? well do me a favor and gop play in traffic


[22-07-2006,21:29]
Anonymous
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hah from what ive seen on this forum UofT is definatly going down hill
[22-07-2006,21:30]
Anonymous
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^ LOL, you are retarded :) Seriously :)

Original poster thinks India has better primary schools than Canada. India has a literacy rate of 64.8%, compared to Canada´s 99%. Therefore, India has the tougher educational system. Canada´s standards are so low!


[22-07-2006,21:36]
Anonymous
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I think the word "starting" should make it clear to a native English speaker. It does look like they mean any degree.

In any case, it wasn?t a very good argument to begin with: Rye and Lakehead engineering can?t be harder than Waterloo?s.... to draw such a simplistic conclusion from their graduation rates is elementary school logic.

Like someone said, you?re really stretching. And being so easily confused by statistical semantics doesn?t reflect well on your credibility.

What is it you?re trying to prove again? Oh right, UofT engineering is the 3rd easiest in Ontario after Queens and Waterloo because of their high graduation rate.

Heh.

[22-07-2006,21:43]
Anonymous
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think about this:

one year at laurentian the graduation rate was 23%!!! If that 23% is including the students who dropped out into different program then how many actually graduated from eng? according to your logic not many.


Graduation rates reflect the difficulty of a university when compared with other universities with similar enterance averages. So sure it might be difficult to compare ryerson or laurentians graduation rate to UofT. but why not Ottawa or western? it requires similar marks to UofT to get into those schools but they still seem to fail alot more students, why is that??????


[22-07-2006,22:36]
Anonymous
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Wow, you sure are smart. You keep amazing this forum with your incredible powers of deduction.

Hint - there were only 11 ("eleven") Laurentian engineering students.

Different universities have different cutoffs for engineering. Someone claims to have made it into Ryerson with a 71%. People at my HS with mid-80s got rejected from UofT and McMaster.

Do you think.... maybe, just maybe.... rates of graduation have something to do with the qualities of the students and faculties?

[22-07-2006,22:53]
Anonymous
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"Hint - there were only 11 ("eleven") Laurentian engineering students."

what are you hinting at shithead? there was 48 students and 11 (23%) got a degree. According to your logic there would be like 3 or 4 students in a graduating class, laurentian engineering would not be able to stay in business with anything less that 11 students dipshit. So obviously those 11 graduated in eng.

Congrats you just proved my point.

[22-07-2006,23:05]
Anonymous
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Im not sure what you mean by faculty quality.

All professors know the material inside out, but like 0.0001% of profs are actually good teachers. I guess UofT lucked out and got ALL the good teachers, that must be how they got such a high graduation rate.

[22-07-2006,23:09]
Anonymous
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What´s with people on this forum?

If you can get into UofT engineering, and you think it´s easy (despite it´s reputation for being really hard), then go!

[22-07-2006,23:35]
Anonymous
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UofT does have better faculty than Ryerson, but it´s not due to luck.
[22-07-2006,23:36]
Anonymous
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If you want to know why some schools have high graduation rates, I can tell you that it´s due to the quality of students. It´s common knowledge. Go look at the graduation rates of the top schools in the states and the top schools here. High graduation rates are related to the quality of the study body.

End of story.

[22-07-2006,23:38]
Anonymous
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""Hint - there were only 11 ("eleven") Laurentian engineering students."

what are you hinting at shithead? there was 48 students and 11 (23%) got a degree."


Ummm, you haven´t taken any stat courses yet have you? Sorry, thought it would be obvious. The sample size is too small to draw any comparisons.

[22-07-2006,23:42]
Anonymous
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have you taken stats yet!?!??!? the 48 students is not a population sample!! 48 is the whole population of engineers in a year.. its 100% accurate. Ill try to explain this as simple as i can to you:

1)LAURENTIAN STARTED WITH A TOTAL POPULATION OF 48 ENGINEERING STUDENTS

2) 11(23%) STUDENTS GRADUATED IN THE WHOLE PROGRAM


According to you, several of those 11 students graduated in a program other than engineering. How could laurentian make money if they have under 10 students in a class? it just doesnt happen. The only solution to this is that the numbers represent the amount of students who started and finished in the same program.







[23-07-2006,00:06]
Anonymous
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"According to you, several of those 11 students graduated in a program other than engineering. How could laurentian make money if they have under 10 students in a class? it just doesnt happen. The only solution to this is that the numbers represent the amount of students who started and finished in the same program."

No, I didn´t say ´several of those 11 students graduated in a program other than engineering´. I have no idea what program they graduated in... because according to the chart that is the program they STARTED in. Laurentian may actually have graduated more engineers that year, e.g. if they allowed BSc students to xfer into it. You´re a little too quick about your ´only solution´. Why don´t you take these stats to someone you trust - mom, dad, doctor, teacher - and ask them what they think.

"Graduation rates reflect the difficulty of a university when compared with other universities with similar enterance averages."

That´s awfully presumptuous, but let´s pretend that´s true. You think Laurentian, Ryerson, Lakehead, etc, have the same entrance averages as Waterloo, Mac, UofT?

[23-07-2006,00:20]
Anonymous
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Earlier your solution to the small number of dropouts at UofT eng was that they were failing eng and graduating in different programs. If that applies to UofT it must apply to Laurentian as well.



The number of students who transfer out of eng greatly outnumbers the number who transfer in.. so my argument still holds

[23-07-2006,00:37]
Anonymous



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