Salary War: psyc VS eng ...3

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Subject: Salary War: psyc VS eng ...3
To the guy who sent that retarded link about "undergraduate medical doctors" you are hopless.
An M.D = medical DOCTORATE

just because you saw "undergrad M.D" strung togeth on some UofT webpage doesnt mean anything. They only use the word undergrad to identify it as an entry level medical doctorate program(you have yet to graduate from a medical school). Its not meant to identify an M.D as an actual undergraduate degree, you need to graduate from another degree program just to apply to medical school, so why would it me "undergraduate".


Secondly, an LL.B is exactly the same as a J.D, so how can one be of doctorate level and one not?

[09-08-2006,01:00]
Anonymous
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oh yeah, and UofT does not require a bachlors degree, it has the exact same requirments as an LL.B... and thats 2 years of school
[09-08-2006,01:09]
Anonymous
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No Bachelor degree required for UofT med school? I can´t believe that. Tell me it ain´t true.
[09-08-2006,01:13]
Anonymous
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no, not for meical school. for its J.D program
[09-08-2006,01:26]
Anonymous
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"Upon completion of the final year of medical school, students are awarded the degree of M.D.(which is an undergraduate medical degree cf. common misconception that an MD is a graduate degree)"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_school#Canada

[09-08-2006,01:32]
Anonymous
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A bachelors degree isn´t required for any medical school, anywhere. But, your chances of getting accepted with less than a degree are much less.
[09-08-2006,01:33]
Anonymous
(in reply to: Salary War: psyc VS eng ...3)
LLB usually designates a law degree taken right after high school or without a bachlelors degree, whereas a JD requires the completion of a bachelors degree. Neither are graduate or doctoral degrees.
[09-08-2006,01:38]
Anonymous
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Isn´t it terrible that millions of kids are starving in Africa right now and you people were arguing about who makes more money: psychologists or engineers?

Damn.

[09-08-2006,01:44]
Anonymous
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Wikipedia said this:

"In Canada, a medical school is a faculty or school of a university, and is typically offered as a four year post-graduate program.

Medical students begin study after receiving a bachelor´s degree in another field of study"


followed by this:


"Upon completion of the final year of medical school, students are awarded the degree of M.D.(which is an undergraduate medical degree cf. common misconception that an MD is a graduate degree)"



Wikipedia managed to contradict itself within 1/2 a page. Try to find a better source to support your claim if one exists.

[09-08-2006,01:44]
Anonymous
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wow wtf happened, i leave for the whole day and now there are 3 threads about this shit.

psychologists making 60k?

http://www.alis.gov.ab.ca/wageinfo/Content/RequestAction.asp?
format=html&aspAction=GetWageSalarySearch&Page=SearchSalary

^copy and paste as one url
these are alberta salaries, not representative of all of canada, but rememeber that wages are highest in Alberta and Ontario.

$61,196 4151 Psychologists Psychologist

salaries for all engineers, you can find in the PEO report, the median is 80k, I have the OIQ report and it is also 80K.
to the guy who said he knew many engineers. sorry, but your telco buddies don´t represent all engineers. look at the facts (i.e. read salary surveys and reports) rather than creating truths out of your limited experiences. And if you look at the PEO report, you´d see that engineers don´t even need an MBA to get into management. And you´d also notice that management positions typically have salaries averaging over 109K.

sorry, but psychologists making 150k is just retarded. psychology professors, maybe, but not psychologists.

and about comparing undergrad degrees in psych and engineering, i agree that this is the logical way to compare the two degrees. You do know that getting a graduate degree in engineering will higher your salary also, just as psychologists with grad degrees will also make more.

[09-08-2006,02:05]
Anonymous
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^dude we get it engineers make 80k.

on a side note...80k ain´t a lot of money mortgage brokers and real estate agents make way more than that. same with insurance brokers/agents.

you guys wanna make real money take some entrepreneurial courses open your own business. you´ll never make more money than your boss, unless you are the boss.

the richest people in the world all have something in common, they are ENTREPRENEURS.

[09-08-2006,02:53]
Anonymous
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Yes, those figures are in Alberta. And can you provide a source for the claim that all salaries are higher in Alberta? Please. Kids say the dardenst things!

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According to the APA (American Psychological Association),

Psychologists with a Doctorate:
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Applied Psychology - Industrial/Organizational - $130,059

Applied Psychology - Other Psychology - $92,500

Administration of Applied Psychology - $143,344

Research Positions - $78,000

Research Administration - $95,000

Direct Human Services - Clinical - $75,000

Direct Human Services - Counseling - $65,000

Direct Human Services - School - $78,000

Direct Human Services - Other Psychological Subfields - $75,500

Administration of Human Services - $75,000

Look at THIS: Pg. 27

http://www.siop.org/salary%20survey2003.0305.pdf

25+ years from receiving doctorate, and the average salary is $175,404. One guy raked in $236,700.

Show me an engineer who makes more than 200k

[09-08-2006,03:48]
Anonymous
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Source for the list of salaries:

http://research.apa.org/03salary/homepage.html#applied_io

[09-08-2006,03:49]
Anonymous
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80k ain´t a lot of money??

now you´re just REACHING.

http://www40.statcan.ca/l01/cst01/labor50a.htm

All levels 31,757
Less than high school graduation certificate 21,230
High school graduation certificate and/or some postsecondary 25,477
Trades certificate or diploma 32,743
College certificate or diploma 32,736
University certificate, diploma or degree 48,648

Source: Statistics Canada, Census of Population.
Last modified: 2004-09-01.

average earnings for all Canadians: $31,757
average earnings for those with a university education: $48,648

Do you have a warped sense of reality? There are tons of ppl who could only dream of making 80K. We´re talking about 50K more than the average Canadian. 30K more than the average university graduate. If 80K ain´t that much, then what makes the 60k you´ll be making as a psychologist?

and if you do get it that engineers´ average salary is 80K, then why do you keep spreading the lies that only in management will engineers make 80k (when in reality it´s more like over 109k)?

i agree that the most money is to be make in owning your own business. I´ve said this countless times. Professions like engineering, law, medicine, accounting, etc. can give you a high income and a high standard of living. It also gives you a stable job. But to get the big bucks and to live the high life, owning your own business is the way to go. However, entrepreneurship is risky and most entrepreneurs will not become multi-millionaires.

[09-08-2006,03:49]
Anonymous
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^ Careful. There is more than one person responding to your posts. I didn´t say 80k isn´t a lot of money.

There´s a new thread. Show me an engineer who makes more than 200k.

I know first hand that psychologists can make boat loads of money. I live in one of the richest neighbourhoods in Toronto and one of my neighbours used to be a psychologist for a computer company back in the day. He´s retired and is still living off the money he made years back. AND living in a home worth over a million bucks.

[09-08-2006,04:08]
Anonymous



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