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Subject: Is Universities all about Name??
I?m a first year student at Mcmaster doing science. However I find no big difference. Sometimes I think that I?m I paying for its name. Its not like I want to prove to anyone that Im so much better than u cause i go to MAC. I come to realize that I can do just as well as in any other university. Maybe Mac does provide more better resources than York in science. Im confused right now, Im thinken of going to YORK for undergraduate studies and then transfer to UFT to do MAsters. I do want to get into medical school and i do know that UFT i s the best #1 but I live so close to York , i can save money. But im not sure if im makin the right move

[02-02-2005,18:08]
Melissa
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Why are you going to commute at York. If you go to York live in student housing or in rez cause you would never get a good university experience living at home.

MAC is just as good as York. I say that you stick with MAC, university is what you make of it.:)



[03-02-2005,21:32]
Anonymous
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That?s right - University is what you make of it.
The name - interesting but it only matters while you go to school. Once you finish, it doesn?t make any difference.
G?luck


[04-02-2005,01:12]
Robin Swan
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I say transfer to York
York students rate their professors MUCH MORE THAN mcmaster students. You will be able to chose your professors and york has greater diversity of courses than McMaster

Look at York profs here
www.ratemyprofessors.com/SelectTeacher.jsp?sid=1495

[07-02-2005,00:04]
Anonymous
McMaster has a better name (in reply to: Is Universities all about Name??)
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Name does matter to a certain degree. York has a reputation to take all the students in Toronto who can?t go anywhere else, say u of T, Mcgill or Queens?.

[13-02-2005,20:00]
Liz
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To the post above: What you said is certainly NOT TRUE. York has a larger student population than most schools in Canada and has the largest facilty of Arts in Canada, thus it may be easier to say that York has a lower acceptance rate than UofT and McGill but in other faculties, York is rated very highly and extremely competitive to get into.

In fact, there is a larger number of students who put York as their first choice than Queens, UWO, McGill and UBC.

Do your reseach please and do not corrupt the minds of students who are willing to excel in life. It is the undeniable truth, York is just pretty darn good after all.





[19-02-2005,01:36]
Proud Yorkie
Best University in Canada: York U (in reply to: Is Universities all about Name??)
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York rocks! Go to York and you will have the best time of your life and get a great education. We are the BEST and everyone hates us for it!

We are an educational powerhouse, the most political campus in Canada, we have the biggest pub nights (Thursday nights), there are more than 130 cultures on campus, there are 4000 international students on campus, our campus is distinctly modern and unconventional (we oppose tradition), our sports teams rule and our girls are sooo hot!

York has it all: The hippies and artists, the druggies, The English-as-Second-Language people, the preppy, the jocks, the young politicians, the nerds and geeks, the ghetto inspired, the rich bitches and the sophisticates.

* Live in Residence or in the village/ghetto. Stay in Stong or Vanier Residence, they have the best mix of students.




[23-02-2005,18:10]
Daniel
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Ahhh poor misguided Yorkers... when will you learn?

Survey by Macleans on Grade distributions, 2002-2003

School Name | 70-74% | 75-79% | 80-84% | 85-89% | 90-94% | 95% or higher
Alberta | 7.6 | 19.7 | 27.2 | 24.5 | 15.8 | 4.4
UBC | 0.2 | 9.2 | 28.6 | 35 | 19.6 | 7.4
Calgary | 10.8 | 22.8 | 30.1 | 23.5 | 10.4 | 1.6
Guelph | 0.2 | 29.9 | 38.4 | 21 | 9.3 | 1.3
Manitoba | 10.5 | 16 | 20.6 | 22.4 | 16.7 | 6.1
McGill | 0.1 | 10.5 | 32.6 | 34.6 | 18.5 | 3.8
McMaster | 13 | 23.3 | 31.5 | 18.7 | 11.6 | 1.2
Montreal | 5.2 | 7.2 | 12.4 | 20.7 | 51.9 | 2.3
Queen?s | 0.2 | 3 | 22.2 | 38.7 | 27 | 8.7
Saskatchewan | 6.6 | 14 | 21.9 | 27.3 | 21.9 | 6.4
Simon Fraser | 1.2 | 15 | 33.5 | 27.4 | 18.9 | 3.9
Toronto | 1.2 | 11.9 | 29.4 | 34.2 | 17.6 | 5.7
Waterloo | 7.1 | 12.4 | 20.6 | 26.7 | 26.7 | 6.1
Western | 0.4 | 6.5 | 45.6 | 29.8 | 15.3 | 2.4
York | 24.9 | 27 | 20.6 | 15.1 | 7.7 | 0.7


York?s entering grade average is among the lowest 3/4th in Canada and more than 25% of York?s student body are entering with averages of below 75% (one in every four, the place must be littered with idiots!). UofT, McGill, and Queens on the other hand all have less than 1.2% of their students entering with below an 75% average.

Queens has 8.7% of their students entering with above a 95% average. UofT has 5.7%. McGill has 3.8%. York? 0.7%.

"If you can hold a fork, you can go to York"

[07-03-2005,19:33]
Anonymous
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Ok, well if York is ?littered with people who have averages less than 80%?, then how come:

-Schulich School of Business is top ranked in Canada and top 20 in the world.
-Osgoode Law School is number one in Ontario and has the largest library collection in Canada for Law Schools
-Faculty of Fine Arts is so competitive and respected that students from Julliard and Smith transfer here
-Faculty of Economics is the largest in Canada and has the most renown profs in the economics division
-Political Science at York is the most respected among all Canadian Universities and the Ontario Legislature recruit summer interns from York PolSci programs only- no other university is even considered.
-2 out of every 4 of the GTA?s top high school kids attend York
-More students return to York in the second year-more than UofT and UBC.
-York has the most amount of international students in Ontario (only McGill has more). Students from all over the world want to attend the recognized university.
-York holds more research chairs than all comprehensive universities and many medical universities in Canada.
-York has collaborative programs with the top universities in USA including Northwestern and NYU.
-How come York has the largest student pride among Toronto universities- there are more York students wearing York sweaters than you will see at UofT and Ryehigh.

If York?s admission is so low, then how come my sister got denied aceptance and got into Queens and UWO.

Something does not add up! So next time you want to criticize York, you need to do more than just go to Maclean?s outdated ranking and show us our acceptance grades. I attend a big university and thus, I know I will find students from all over and all kinds, but one thing is certain is that there is no room for wanabee loser punks like you.



[15-03-2005,17:20]
Kristi P.
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"-Schulich School of Business is top ranked in Canada and top 20 in the world.
-Osgoode Law School is number one in Ontario and has the largest library collection in Canada for Law Schools "

Schulich has dropped out of top 10 lists on BusinessWeek (Whereas Western, UofT, Queens have all retained top 10 ranks), and on Financial Times it not first (UofT-Rotman is).

If you know anything about law schools you would know that Osgoode is far from being first. UofT Law is quite a bit more selective, has better reputation and better placements. Osgoode for the most part remains the ?safety? school for those who can?t get in to UT Law. Even though Osgoode has twice as many students as UT Law, UT STILL places more students in to bay street jobs (the highest paying jobs in Canada).

"-2 out of every 4 of the GTA?s top high school kids attend York "

And you came upon this conclusion because... York?s entrance average is so low? Sources please.

"-How come York has the largest student pride among Toronto universities- there are more York students wearing York sweaters than you will see at UofT and Ryehigh. "

Really? I thought Yorkers had no pride. And to say UofT students do not wear UofT sweaters... obviously you have not been on the UofT campus.

"Something does not add up!"

You?re right. Something does not add up - you lie alot.

[17-03-2005,16:39]
Anonymous
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Might I add that even though you say Schulich is good (York?s strongest department), here are some hard facts from BusinessWeek and Financial Times:


Queen?s School of Business - for Science & Technology (Canada)
Accept Rate: 33% (202 apps)
Average GMAT: 676
Average Salary 3 yrs ($US): 94,463


University of Toronto - Rotman (Canada)
Accept Rate: 32% (1,205 apps)
Average GMAT: 673
Average Salary 3 yrs ($US): 103,039


Western - Richard Ivey School of Business (Canada)
Accept Rate: 37% (1,100 apps)
Average GMAT: 662
Average Salary 3 yrs ($US): 101,668


York - Schulich (Canada)
Accept Rate: 48% (1,263 apps)
Average GMAT: 657
Average Salary 3 yrs ($US): 84,480

As you can see.. Schulich is SIGNIFICANTLY easier to get in to. They almost accept half of all applicants, whereas the other big 3 accept around 1/3 of all applicants. Schulich?s average salary is also a joke compared to the other three b-schools.

[17-03-2005,16:51]
Anonymous
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Wow this thread went downhill from the moment someone said "York students rate their professors MUCH MORE THAN mcmaster students"...

[18-03-2005,03:50]
Anonymous

[22-06-2005,14:40]
Let's discuss
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Schools do look at where you went.


[22-06-2005,15:14]
Anonymous
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I think to a great extent you are paying for just the name. These are all regulated universities, it´s not like they´d maintain that title if they fell too far behind the others.

That said, some still excel in certain areas, but it´s nowhere near as much as this board would make you think. Once you´re done with your four years the only thing that will matter are your connections and that piece of paper with your name on it.

[22-06-2005,18:57]
Anonymous
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See article below: Would she have spent all that time in Ryerson´s history dept if it were a crap university? I think not. You lot need to grow up fast.

Election of New Warden

St Antony´s College, Oxford, is pleased to announce that it has elected Professor Margaret MacMillan as its new Warden to succeed Sir Marrack Goulding who is to retire in September 2006.


In accepting the post, Professor MacMillan said "St Antony´s attracts outstanding scholars and students from all over the world. I am delighted and honoured that I am going to be part of such an extraordinarily lively and important centre of learning."


Professor MacMillan has been the Provost of Trinity College, University of Toronto, since 2002. From 1975 until 2002 she was a member of the History Department at Ryerson University in Toronto and also served as chair of the Department.


She was a student at St Antony´s doing a D.Phil. on the British in India in the early 1970´s and returned to the College as a Senior Associate Member in 1993. In 2003 she was elected to an Honorary Fellowship.


She is the author of a number of books. Her most recent major work Peacemakers: the Paris Conference of 1919 and Its Attempt to End War (2001) won the Duff Cooper Prize, the PEN Hessell-Tiltman prize for history and the Samuel Johnson prize for non-fiction. It has won numerous other awards in the United States and Canada. Professor MacMillan is an authoritative commentator in the media on both history and current international affairs.


St Antony´s is a graduate college of the University of Oxford specialising in international studies. The current Warden, Sir Marrack Goulding said "Professor MacMillan is an outstanding scholar and manager. St Antony´s has for years been proud of her achievements and is now delighted at her selection to the Wardenship. Her command of modern history and contemporary international relations make her an ideal head of this College".

[23-06-2005,01:27]
Anonymous
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See article below: Would she have spent all that time in Ryerson´s history dept if it were a crap university? I think not. You lot need to grow up fast.

Election of New Warden

St Antony´s College, Oxford, is pleased to announce that it has elected Professor Margaret MacMillan as its new Warden to succeed Sir Marrack Goulding who is to retire in September 2006.


In accepting the post, Professor MacMillan said "St Antony´s attracts outstanding scholars and students from all over the world. I am delighted and honoured that I am going to be part of such an extraordinarily lively and important centre of learning."


Professor MacMillan has been the Provost of Trinity College, University of Toronto, since 2002. From 1975 until 2002 she was a member of the History Department at Ryerson University in Toronto and also served as chair of the Department.


She was a student at St Antony´s doing a D.Phil. on the British in India in the early 1970´s and returned to the College as a Senior Associate Member in 1993. In 2003 she was elected to an Honorary Fellowship.


She is the author of a number of books. Her most recent major work Peacemakers: the Paris Conference of 1919 and Its Attempt to End War (2001) won the Duff Cooper Prize, the PEN Hessell-Tiltman prize for history and the Samuel Johnson prize for non-fiction. It has won numerous other awards in the United States and Canada. Professor MacMillan is an authoritative commentator in the media on both history and current international affairs.


St Antony´s is a graduate college of the University of Oxford specialising in international studies. The current Warden, Sir Marrack Goulding said "Professor MacMillan is an outstanding scholar and manager. St Antony´s has for years been proud of her achievements and is now delighted at her selection to the Wardenship. Her command of modern history and contemporary international relations make her an ideal head of this College".

[23-06-2005,01:28]
Anonymous
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^^^^
Maybe they just paid her a lot of money.

[23-06-2005,01:41]
Anonymous
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all profs go to the University that pay them the most (for research).. so whats your point?
[23-06-2005,12:05]
Anonymous
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the point is this: universities are like a bowl of fruit...you like apples, I prefer guavas...nutrional content aside, whose to say which is better?....in the larger scheme of things, people with lives to live have better things to focus on than some u-grad fixation on the (arbitrary and subjective - and don´t bother quotong Maclean´s) nature of university reputations etc...
...it may also interest you to know that in a recent review in the UK, the history dept at oxford brookes university (the "other" university in oxford) has a higher rating than (the famous) oxford university itself...so what´s one to make of this..time to grow up, people...

[24-06-2005,08:04]
Anonymous



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