engineering VS the undergraduate world

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Subject: engineering VS the undergraduate world
engineering wins because we are all kings. We take more courses than you, we also take harder courses than you and pay more tuition than you. Engineering students do more homework in a day than an arts student does in a week, but we also get paid about 2x as much when we graduate. An engineering grad form the shittiest university will work harder and get paid more money than an arts graduate from the best university. Engineers get special car insurence as well. Take it artsies take it in your stupid asses.
[11-08-2006,19:18]
Anonymous
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Engineers are tools. Specialization is for insects.


[11-08-2006,20:26]
Anonymous
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Yes, it must be better to get a BA, then you can work for $28,000/yr and you wont be a tool! (:
[11-08-2006,20:56]
Anonymous
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Nope, I´m not stupid enough to claim a BA beats an Eng degree. I know a Lakehead eng grad who earns mad cash (maybe not anymore since he just divorced) and wrote his own ticket right out of school.

HOWEVER

All the engineering perks in your original post also applies to teachers. What the fuck makes you so special? Oh right, you´re a brainwashed tool. I heard the same things in the army reserves. Luckily I was smart enough to know a pfc with a c-9 isn´t king shit. Too bad you´re not.

[11-08-2006,22:09]
Anonymous
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teachers college is a joke, its liek the easiest thing on the planet. Teaching is professional and its a noble job dont get me wrong, but it does not have the same perks as an engineering licence. You start with much lower pay for one thing, also.. a good teacher doesnt get paid any better than a bad teacher. There is no motivation for teachers to do better or do anything really, they cant lose their jobs for being a shity teacher... and they all get paid the same money periodically as they gain experience until they max out at like 75K/yr and stay there forever. Being a teacher is like being a blue collar professional, theyre fucking unionized.
[11-08-2006,22:24]
Anonymous
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On a daily basis the brillant teachers have to match their wits with little children! big challenge. But i wouldnt expect much more, from what ive heard about teachers college its like taking 3 steps back from any university program.

As an engineer ill have to supervise and administrate teams of ADULTS, usually very smart people some of which will be smarter than me.


Tell me again, how is an engineer a tool and a teacher not?

[11-08-2006,22:30]
Anonymous
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You might supervise adults. You won´t at first, you´re just another worker bee until you gain maturity and experience (sorely lacking so far, IMO).

Teachers could be considered more important than engineers to society at large, depending on who you ask. So could garbage men, doctors, police....

I didn´t say teachers are more or less tools than engineers, only that they share the same perks that the OP stated:

"also get paid about 2x as much when we graduate. A [teacher] grad form the shittiest university will work harder and get paid more money than an arts graduate from the best university. [Teachers] get special car insurence as well."

Teachers actually have many more perks than engineers. A union that can shut down a province. 3/4 pay schemes (75% of your pay for 3 years and a fully paid 4th year off). Stable hours and long summer vacations. It ain´t for me but their benefits match or exceed anything an engineer can expect. Engineers can rise much higher and get paid more in the private sector but they aren´t some kind of uber profession.

[11-08-2006,22:43]
Anonymous
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Teachers get alot of benefits, much more than they deserve for what they do. They do nothing... and some people like getting paid well for nothing.

Engineers dont need to go on strike, we dont need a union to protect us. Teachers are blue collar,they are unionized, they are told what to do, what to teach, what to say.


Ive see newly graduated teachers, and ive see older teachers who have been teaching for 10-20 years... while in school i noticed how that job just sucks the life out of you. After 5-10 years teachers just dont have any motivation at all, its sick. If teachers didnt have massive time off it would be the shittiest job on the plant.

[11-08-2006,22:57]
Anonymous
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Nobody appreciates or cares about teachers until they have school age kids of their own.
[11-08-2006,23:01]
Anonymous
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What´s with this engineering student? Why does he think he´s so special? Dude, an engineer is not a big deal! This guy probably came here from friggin´ Africa or something and think s being an engineer will make him superior to everyone else. I respect policemen and firemen more than I respect an engineer, and certainly more than I respect an arrogant engineering student.
[11-08-2006,23:12]
Anonymous
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Im from Canada, and maybe you should respect engineers.. they are the profession that has had the single greatest impact on the world. Any idiot can drive around in a cop car and eat donuts, to succeed as an engineer is takes smarts, diciplin, and ingenuity.. none of which a cop or fireman require.


[12-08-2006,02:00]
Anonymous
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^yeah but do engineers risk their lives in the line of duty?
[12-08-2006,02:07]
Anonymous
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no but atleast we take an oath to protect the public. If an engineer see´s any structue or industrial situation thatmay be unsafe it is that engineers professional duty to do somthing.
[12-08-2006,12:55]
Anonymous



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