McGill Fanboy - Just One Insecure Monkey

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Subject: McGill Fanboy - Just One Insecure Monkey
McGill fanboy needs to get laid instead of jacking off on those business magazine rankings.

Can you picture McGill fanboy holding up a copy of Businessweek or FT, and telling the manager at a job interview that he?s entitled to the position because his school?s MBA program ranks higher than the other job candidates. LOL. What a loser!

Also, Mcgill fanboy continously refers to MBA rankings when he?s not even in the MBA program. Get a life! Go get laid!

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lol you like to call others insecure, yet who´s the one who has made 1000000 threads about mcgill vs jmsb? buddy, look in the mirror before accusing others of being insecure.
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^hahaha that´s right the Concordia retard keeps starting threads...and he keeps answering to himself!

what a retard! he has an inferiority complex... well, all concordians do!

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McGill fanboy, are you jacking off with your magazine rankings again?

Get it through your peanut brain, rankings mean shit in the real world. Also, if rankings meant anything, then UofT should have all the best students from 1995 - 2004 based on Maclean´s rankings, sinced they were ranked first for so many years. So are we all UofT rejects?
The answer is NO!

McGill´s business faculty is not accredited becuase it hasn´t met AACSB´s quality standards for all its programs.

Btw, the CEOs of CIBC and Manulife are Concordia graduates, and the Chairman of the Royal Bank is also a Concordia graduate. This means, McGilligans don´t have preference in the business world over Concordians.

McGill fanboy is down for another count.

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^It´s not often Concordians can kick McGill´s butt. I´m enjoying this very much.
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i love how you self-replied. pathetic, really.

why don´t you realize through your peanut brain that rankings DO show a general view of how b-schools place relative to each other and an AACSB accreditation does not! a school like Brock or Memorial are AACSB accredited, yet the best b-school in our country, Schulich (York) is not! How can i take this AACSB accreditation seriously if our best b-school doesn´t have this accreditation. How can i take this AACSB accreditation seriously if even respected publications such as Financial Times, Forbes, and Business Week will still place schools such as Schulich, McGill and Western at the top despite the fact that they aren´t AACSB accredited? And how can I take JMSB seriously when it doesn´t show up in any b-school ranking, how can you seriously and honestly say that you even have a "good" b-school? Who can take JMSB seriously when it´s part of McGill´s reject farm, Concordia? Your school is either last or second to last place in Maclean´s every year for fucksake!

"Btw, the CEOs of CIBC and Manulife are Concordia graduates, and the Chairman of the Royal Bank is also a Concordia graduate. This means, McGilligans don?t have preference in the business world over Concordians. "

And the Chairman of Microsoft is a college dropout, your point? If anything, you don´t want to compare McGill and Concordia alumni, i´ll die of laughter.

now please, PLEASE, just disappear!

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^ The first thing you should know about accrediation is the university has to first seek it. It´s a long complicated process that eats up valuable resources. I don´t know if McGill and Schulich are actively seeking accreditation but I can see if they choose to forgo it if they believe they´re better than the rest. That would be arrogance. From what I´ve seen, this is an American accreditation and not all Canadian schools are on board yet. It may take some time before we see the likes of Schulich and McGill on the list.

Accreditation of b-schools is generally considered optional. It´s not like a medical school or engineering school where if education standards are´t met, people die. The most important aspect of business that´s largely ignored, is business ethics. I don´t see may stadards being set there based on the likes of Enron, Worldcom.

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*yawn* there, you got the last word. i don´t really give a shit since i go to the Harvard of Canada, whereas you´re just a pathetic little reject from Concordia. keep trying to convince ppl on this anonymous board that Concordia or JMSB is anything but the reject school that it is, but you´ll hopefully soon realize that ultimately no one cares and no one will ever take your last-place ranked school (or your unranked business school), seriously. so have a nice day, you insecure reject.
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Carleton´s Sprott sets sights on prestigious accreditation
By Roman Zakaluzny, Ottawa Business Journal Staff
Wed, Mar 7, 2007 4:00 PM EST

Bill Keep. (photo supplied)
Carleton University´s Sprott School of Business has its sights set on joining an elite club.

In April, the school, which just recently became a full faculty at Carleton, will apply for AACSB accreditation, a process that will take years and cost thousands of dollars.

If and when it´s completed, the school hopes it will improve the standing of the business school internationally, and help it attract the best faculty in North America, the school´s new dean said.

"This type of accreditation has become increasingly important as schools try to demonstrate their effectiveness, both at the graduate and the undergraduate levels," Bill Keep told the OBJ.

The AACSB, which stands for the Association to Advance Collegiate Schools of Business, began in 1916 in the United States, with standards most recently revised in 2003.

The accrediting body claims that its member schools ? from Virginia to Venezuela ? meet minimum standards in terms of faculty, the amount of student-teacher interaction, and other variables.

"Institutions that earn accreditation confirm their commitment to quality and continuous improvement through a rigorous and comprehensive peer review," the organization boasts. "AACSB International accreditation is the hallmark of excellence in management education."

Mr. Keep agreed, and said it is difficult to compare business schools. The AACSB designation, however, is one way to separate the good ones from the pretenders.

"Education is a service industry, and service industries are notorious for having to deal with the issue of intangibility," said Mr. Keep. "In short, how do you measure the worth of the instructions?"

The American-born professor compared it to getting a McDonald´s franchise.

"They tell you how long to fry the fries, what temperature -- all of that. AACSB accreditation is more like (that). Not to that extreme degree (as) we certainly have lots of freedoms in telling AACSB what we want to achieve as a business school. For example, not to offer certain kinds of degrees."

Like the ISO-9000 series, it´s a designation more and more businesses are trying to get, and hope not to be the last one without it.

"Basically, they really want to get into how we do our business, and how we use information about how well we do our business to then improve what we do," said Mr. Keep. "In essence, it´s the continuous improvement . . . as an organization."

Accreditation is voluntary, and faculty at Sprott voted to join the exclusive group before Mr. Keep arrived as its first dean two months ago. However, he also said Carleton was the first business school he´s worked at that lacked membership.

"If you look around our environment here in Ontario, almost all the major business schools are AACSB accredited," he said.

Nearly 550 universities and colleges around the world are, and 17 institutions in Canada carry the title. Sprott wants to be the eighteenth; the sixth in Ontario.

Already having the title since 2003 is the University of Ottawa School of Business.

"We have a couple of different accreditations, but the AACSB is probably the most intensive," said dean Micheal Kelly. "It´s very clear to us that the AACSB accreditation is one of those you have to have if you want to be a top-ranked business school."

Having it, as well as a separate MBA accreditation, has put the U of O in the top three per cent of business schools worldwide, he said. He said situations have arisen where students or faculty, looking for transfers to U.S. colleges, have been asked to prove AACSB accreditation before admittance.

"It´s something we wanted to get off the table," he said.

"I was at a conference . . . a few weeks ago, and the number 8,000 was being kicked around as the number of schools in the world. (Getting AACSB) was just a way of differentiating us from the thousands of other MBA and business schools that are out there."

So far, it seems, high school students shopping for a business school don´t necessarily factor in whether it is AACSB accredited. Enrolment at both schools is up over the last few years and, at Carleton, minimum grade requirements are as well.

But if rising enrolment shows it´s not an issue with students, why get it? It might simply come down to a case of keeping up with the Jones´s.

"This isn´t an attempt to fix something that is broken, as much as an attempt to demonstrate that we are doing good work," said Mr. Keep.

"We are aware that the University of Ottawa, and Queen´s, and York, and the U of T, and McGill and Concordia all have (it)," he said. "I´m really fairly certain that, in Ontario, not many have not gotten it. We certainly don´t want it to be an issue for students at the graduate or undergraduate level."

As well, some prospective faculty have refused to teach at non-accredited schools, Mr. Keep said.

Current Sprott business students said they appreciated the school´s move.

"The students who do speak about it are excited that the new dean is proposing to get the accreditation," said Aarash Rafiaie, in third year and president of the Business Students Society. "The fact that we just became a faculty, combined with (the AACSB), makes us a more high-profile business school and hopefully one of the best in Canada."

"The time and money put into this effort will create a better outcome for all," agreed fourth year student Rose Akkaya, also the president of the Marketing Students´ Association. "Students who are currently in the program may not be happy with the increase in fees. However, in the long run when they graduate, this may benefit them, mainly because Sprott will by that point be an accredited school."


Canadian business schools currently possessing an AACSB accreditation:

University of Alberta

University of Calgary

University of British Columbia

Simon Fraser University

University of Manitoba

Memorial University of Newfoundland

Dalhousie University

Saint Mary´s University

Brock University

McMaster University

University of Ottawa

Queen´s University

University of Toronto

Wilfrid Laurier University

Concordia University

HEC Montreal

Universite Laval

Source: AACSB International,

(in reply to: McGill Fanboy - Just One Insecure Monkey)
You kids are dumb.. an undergraduate degree is an undergraduate degree, period. Believe me when I say that no one knows of these no namer universities down here in the states.



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